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Hadopi: "Fines are starting to fall" imagine an editor

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Questioned by La Semaine in Boulonnais, Christophe Painset CEO of H2DS company praises the merits of ISIS his "Hadopi" security software paid.

But in the columns of the Boulogne newspaper, the company manager clearly well informed claims that on Hadopi "fines are starting to fall. It's 1500 euros for an individual. Potentially, we are all concerned. You must not believe that only those practicing excessive downloading are (being) followed. It's not a matter of volume, but of marked file". That's convenient, ISIS is simple as hello: "You install the software and hop, you let yourself be guided. There's nothing simpler."

And hop.

Not a single fine

Problem, the claim is false: Hadopi is not in phase 3. Not a single court decision has fallen to condemn anyone to 1500 euros and/or 1 month of access suspension for the slightest internet user. Another detail forgotten, it's not because a subscriber installs one of these paid (or free) software that he won't be able to be prosecuted by the Hadopi system. The installation of this software does not excuse the subscriber if their IP shows up on P2P networks.

ISIS and the functional specifications

ISIS had already been questioned for its communication in the past when it claimed to be the "1st software (to respond) to Hadopi functional specifications". Contacted by us, the publisher revised its draft to mention "in accordance with the draft functional specifications", more accurate. In a more recent press release, pointed out by Numerama, the publisher now presents its baby as being "the only internet security software compliant with the functional specifications of the new HADOPI consultation", a way to slip through the cracks and encourage consumers to pay for their services as soon as possible.

Who wants to pay up :93:

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mioaip ^^
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No paid or mandatory log on my machine nope ^^
Vw ! What else ? Mk1 only ! Lower is better !
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totally agree!
I propose that the fofo have its own HADOPI :93:
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How do you expect guys who know nothing about computers to come up with laws that make sense.

They ban peer to peer, no problem, the internet answers, direct download.

They're already thinking about going after direct download and streaming, except collecting ip addresses is illegal while just browsing the internet.

They can't do anything and they're spending our money on nonsense, because if they push things too far the answer will be cryptography and VPN.

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Pfff! P2P, I always found it crappy: garbage speeds and now hadopi -_-

Megaupload, Rapidshare, fileserve... Downloading files from that kind of host, now that's cool :D

To hell with P2P :D
Long live direct download :D
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The worst big joke is the systematic taxes on storage devices, paid to the SACEM. In conclusion, the guy who doesn't download gets screwed anyway because he pays for his CDs and on top of that he's taxed! :93:
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and fnac.com ... ^^
For me it's all freeware! :P
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Downloadwhat??????? downloadwho???
I don't understand a thing myself ^^
The only shame in all this is the loss of the notion of "sharing" that those who never pulled their moph xt and others knew well ;).
But that's not the debate lol ^^


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According to a Hadopi survey obtained exclusively by Le Figaro, the emails and registered letters sent to the French suspected of illegal downloading (or of failing to secure their connection) are already having an effect.

Frédéric Mitterrand should make it official soon, but the survey reveals numerous statistics, namely:

7% of people surveyed say that they (or someone close to them) have received a recommendation from Hadopi
50% of people warned by Hadopi have stopped downloading illegally
22% still get copyrighted files illegally, but less than before
26% still download just as much
2% download more than before

This therefore means that according to this data, 72% of those surveyed download less or not at all anymore thanks to the graduated response. Now there's a statistic that comes in handy and that perfectly legitimizes the punitive system, given that we're only halfway through before the real assessment, which must be carried out at the end of the year.

A survey lacking in details

That said, how much credit should we give this data? If the politics of fear probably works on some, it's no secret to anyone that streaming sites (like MegaVideo and VideoBB) and direct download sites (such as RapidShare and MegaUpload) have had a resounding success in France since the graduated response was put in place, with the High Authority only bothering to analyze P2P software.

Another important detail, Le Figaro doesn't specify how the question is phrased, nor how many people were surveyed (100? 1000? 10,000?). We also don't know whether line security is addressed in the Hadopi survey.

We do learn, however, that "half of the internet users surveyed say they consume cultural works more regularly on sites that respect copyright" and that 37% of those surveyed say they are "indifferent to the checks", compared to 45% at the start of the year.

Opposing surveys

Finally, half of the people surveyed say that Hadopi "is a good initiative". Yet, last November, an LH2-Zdnet survey told us that only 14% considered the law would have a positive effect, while one in two people considered Hadopi useless, and one in three found the text "absurd".

Be that as it may, we're waiting for the details of this survey and the conclusions of Frédéric Mitterrand, the Minister of Culture, who is visiting the Hadopi offices right now.


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meeeh
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