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Small understanding question

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Good evening everyone!
I'm opening this topic because of a question I have.
Basically until today I had followed the forum's various tutorials without any problems on my previous Wii, and understood roughly what the whole exploit, cIOS, etc etc story was about.

Still I'm switching to a new Wii, the previous one showing signs of aging, and I don't want to make big modifications to this one. I don't need a backup launcher, or a usb loader, etc. I just need to transfer my saves. I won't go back over that, I already posted my question about my save problem on another topic.
So since it seems obvious to me that I'm going to need Gecko OS or equivalent for these darn protected saves, I figured I'd probably still need to install the HBC.

So my question is: apart from installing the HBC channel, what modifications does the HackMii Installer make to the system? (I'm obviously talking about if I only click on that option, I'm not talking about BootMii)
Basically if I just install the HBC without touching anything else on the IOS, do I need to worry about updates, install anti-brick systems and the like?
I'd like to use it just for Gecko OS or possibly also for WAD Manager but nothing more. I'd like to keep this Wii "clean" of any modification so I don't run into trouble with any online updates or otherwise.

Thanks in advance to whoever can enlighten me!
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Re: Small understanding question

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you're not risking anything. hbc is just a channel.

the ideal would be a combination of hbc, priiloader (to disable save protection) and finally savegamemanagerGX. and one last point about which I might be wrong. To transfer a save to a wii, you need to have launched and created a save beforehand. In other words, you can replace a save but not add a new one. This is true with the wii's system menu but I'm not sure about savegamemanagerGX.
then to get back to a clean wii... you format :mrgreen: no... I'm kidding :98:
Reinstall the system menu and its associated ios (to check in priiloader).
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Re: Small understanding question

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Thanks for your quick reply!

Still I'd like to avoid installing Priiloader, from what I remember it makes some fairly significant changes that I'd rather not have to undo afterward.

I had read that with Gecko OS's rebooter or the Backup Launcher's, you could remove the copy flags. Since they only emulate a NAND, if I'm not mistaken, and therefore don't make any particular changes, wouldn't that be simpler that way?
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Re: Small understanding question

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worst case... install hbc and see if SaveGameManagerGx does its job without the save protection patch.
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Re: Small understanding question

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On the SaveManagerGx site I found this:
Requirements:

A cIOS249 rev 9 or higher installed, or IOS58 installed
A SD/HC inserted in front slot or an USB disk
A way to boot homebrew (HBC 1.0.8 or higher recommended)
Basically I'm forced to modify an IOS to use it... :/
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Re: Small understanding question

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+1 with mamule :bravo:
Update hbc 1.0.8
update to 4.3
then SaveGameManagerGX ;)
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Re: Small understanding question

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Thanks to both of you for the tip!

I'll try that and see what happens! :)
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Re: Small understanding question

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Well the verdict: it doesn't work! :(

I just installed the HBC and loaded SaveManagerGx, but when I launch the install I get "Unable to SetUID" for each of the saves in the error.log ...
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Re: Small understanding question

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check that hbc is really using ios58. Press 1 or home I don't remember which :P
Did you launch the game a first time to create the save on the wii? SGMGX can only replace a save.
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Re: Small understanding question

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Ah ok!!! I thought the game had to create the save, but then still had to delete it before doing the install with SaveManager.

Actually by leaving the save it just replaces it! Thanks!! :) :)

However I still have an issue with a downloaded content save for Guitar Hero World Tour... :(
How can I transfer that content from one wii to another?
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Re: Small understanding question

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I don't know :P

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Re: Small understanding question

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Ah! Finally! I found a workaround! :93:

No well if someone else knows, I'd be very interested! Repaying for the additional content, meh not really!
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Re: Small understanding question

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Well I'm dropping my previous question, apparently nobody knows.

Still I have another error on the game Mario Strikers Football.
I did launch the game a first time, the save file was created and yet in SaveManager I get the error "Unable to copy datas" when I try to install my save...
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Re: Small understanding question

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do you have priiloader? enable the hack that disables save copy protection :bravo:
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Re: Small understanding question

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No no Priiloader, Wii not hacked (see first post). That said I had no trouble installing the Guitar Hero III save, which is protected though.
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Yes but mario is a nintendo save.

I bet with priiloader, no problem.
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Ah... yet no problem either with Mario Galaxy.

No other solution than Priiloader? As I explained at the start of the topic, I'd like to avoid "modifying" this Wii too much if possible.
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there's starpatch which patches the system menu directly unlike priiloader. then you'd just need to reinstall the system menu as a wad to remove this hack but I don't know if there's a starpatch compatible with 4.3 :?
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Re: Small understanding question

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Ok let's say I install the Priiloader, if later I do a console update, would there be a particular risk? (knowing that I haven't modified any IOS)
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no because once you're done with your little dealings ( :P ). you relaunch priiloader and uninstall it :bravo:
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Re: Small understanding question

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I wonder if there isn't a trace left since priiloader moves the system menu
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Re: Small understanding question

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Thanks for the advice! I'll try with the Priiloader then.

As for my Wii, I wanted to avoid modifying it too much so I wouldn't have to block updates, since I don't need to run backups on it.
I just wanted to put my old saves on it and that's it.

Happy new year otherwise! And long live the forum of course! :)
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Hmm... after installing Priiloader and enabling the option for protected saves, I still get the error "Unable to copy datas" via SaveManager, for the Mario Strikers Football save... :(
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did you check savegamemanager's options?
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Hmm yes but I didn't find anything special to configure related to this problem
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