WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Thanks, after everyone's been telling me about it for so long. Alright I'll try it
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Oh boy, straight back to 122!

code dump occured when I dl the wiitdb, that's a bad start!

Long live r122!
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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This afternoon I tested rev200 and no problem at all, but I do wonder about certain things when I see the criticism, because I've tested quite a few revisions of WiiFlow, and not just a couple. If they aren't even distributed on WiiFlow's googlecode in compiled form, there's a reason for that...

Why would you want to dump games with a homebrew meant for playing them?
CleanRip 1.0.1 which is made for dumping like WiiFlow is made for playing works very well for the task it's assigned to, same thing for WiiFlow when it comes to launching a game (or else I don't know how some people use their Wii...)

It's like, why use other file systems than WBFS on a USB hard drive which, when plugged into your console, is "normally" made for playing and storing nothing else.

I use a self-powered 160GB USB 2.0 (2.5") hard drive (Western Digital) in 100% WBFS file system with a 2GB Sandisk Ultra II (15MB/s) SD card and problems are rare.

I have no problem playing my backups (made with CleanRip or Wii DVD Dumper) whether with WiiFlow 2.1, CFG USB Loader 60 (release), uLoader 5.1E, USB Loader GX rev874/883 or even NeoGamma-R9 beta 44 (provided you configure it/them correctly).

If you use a homebrew made TO dump your games, precisely TO dump your games (and not a backup Loader which is made TO load backups) you have "generally" little or no problem(s). (I'm talking from my personal experience)

If you use a USB Loader made TO load your backups onto a USB device, precisely TO load your backups you "generally" have no problem(s) either. (again personal experience)

So why keep pushing?
It's like wanting to dry your laundry with a washing machine...
Do what you need to do with a tool designed for that purpose and it will already avoid quite a few unnecessary hassles. Anyway... I hope the message came through ;)

PS: Don't take this as an "attack" or a "morality lesson", I'm just trying to help and make certain people understand their "mistakes" (even though I make some too, I'm far from perfect lol)
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Sa_Gojyo

I don't know who you're addressing, but I'll allow myself to answer.

In no way am I trying to criticize Wiiflow and its developers.
I've been using Wiiflow for a year now and I'm rather satisfied with it overall.

Now there's a Wiiflow version capable of managing FAT or NTFS partitions, what's wrong with wanting to use its capabilities.
Personally, I don't like the WBFS format, I feel like I don't have full control, especially when I manage my drive on my PC, so the possibility of using NTFS suits me well.
Besides I have no issue with my rev117 managing NTFS.

Today there's a rev195, with which I can't manage to launch my Backups on my NTFS hard drive.
If compatibility no longer exists, just say so, but don't lecture people who are trying to use the functions they were told about.

Same for the Dump, apparently that's part of Wiiflow's functions, so why not use it?
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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philg62 you say: don't lecture people, so I'll quote what I said in "PS":
Don't take this as an "attack" or a "morality lesson"
philg62: I'm not addressing you since you're not complaining about it, I'm addressing everyone who complains about certain features "which were, originally, not meant for that" ;)
philg62: You also say: Same for the Dump, apparently that's part of Wiiflow's functions, so why not use it?
I simply answer: Because people complain about it, in that case let them use software made to create backups, like CleanRip or DVD Dumper, and not a "USB Loader".
philg62: As for the file systems, whether it's WBFS/FAT/NTFS, you're not complaining about that either so I agree with you (I actually hesitated to switch to NTFS but WBFS is more suited when it comes to playing), and NTFS compatibility still exists ;) (it actually works very well in rev200)
philg62: You also say "Now there's a Wiiflow version capable of managing FAT or NTFS partitions, what's wrong with wanting to use its capabilities."
I answer again: None, as long as no one complains about it. (That's a lot of "you say" lol)

There, I hope I was clear because I'm still a bit fuzzy given how little sleep I've had ;)
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Don't yell at people :)
Stay Zen...

Personally, I don't understand people who "complain" in general: for a free loader, huge work has been put in. As I already said, the "wiiflow-team" owes us nothing.

People who complain, I'd rather not even answer them...

A slight difference with those who report bugs: that moves the product forward, that helps the "wiiflow-team", and when I can, I try to be one of those people..

@Wiiflow-team: By the way: If you need specific tests, a specific case in a specific environment that I can test for you, don't hesitate...
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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No one is yelling at anyone.

Sa_Gojyo gives their opinion, I give mine.
That's called a discussion. :)

Sa_Gojyo It's not good to spend the night on the wii.
You need to sleep a bit :D


Well not everything, but does anyone have any idea why wiiflow doesn't launch my Backups?

Apparently some got rev200 which seems to satisfy them.
But where is rev200?
The first page of the topic is still at rev195.
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Hello.
I confirm, with rev.166 to 197, I had issues reading games on an NTFS partition. Since I've been testing version rev.200, no more issues at all. What a joy to be able to use it again without any problem. Well, except for the Ocarina codes, wanted to test that, but the games don't launch. But for that I'm not worried, since it's not really important
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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philg62 wrote:No one is yelling at anyone.

Sa_Gojyo gives their opinion, I give mine.
That's called a discussion. :)

Sa_Gojyo It's not good to spend the night on the wii.
You need to sleep a bit :D


Well not everything, but does anyone have any idea why wiiflow doesn't launch my Backups?

Apparently some got rev200 which seems to satisfy them.
But where is rev200?
The first page of the topic is still at rev195.
I got it from WiiGen 2.1 rev.200. I hope no one will hold it against me for posting a link to a competing site :oops: :?
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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A bit of history, originally Hibern created Wiiflow to do only one thing, launch backups from HDD. There was a Dump and Ocarina option but the online mode was disabled, a wish of Hibern's, Wiiflow 1.1
Then Narolez came along to make Wiiflow 1.1 more stable than it already was but didn't do a lot of work, Wiiflow 25, then he left.
A long time went by with nothing happening on Wiiflow while all the other USB Loaders kept evolving.
r-win (one of the coders of USB Loader GX, among others) was asked to come work on Wiiflow to add FAT32. Which he did, it took time, test revs, but now it works well.
During that time Miigotu showed up. With r-win, they added all the new options you've known since Wiiflow 1.1.
HulkHodn makes brief appearances, he in particular worked on the WiiTDB option.
to be continued...

So, what I think: wiiflow 1.1 suited me very well, all my backups (5 :93: ) ran very well. But when I saw that an unofficial side wiiflow had a category option, well I switched to that version. Miigotu added the categories for me (since I had asked r-win but he didn't want to include it). I came back to the official Wiiflow. So yes, I'm in favor of adding options to Wiiflow.
Some options are totally useless to me, but I know the guy for whom fanart and thp were included and I can tell you he digs it hard.
But every new option added brings its share of bugs, and of course they don't leave it like that, the whole team works hard. Wiiflow is moving forward, lots of options work perfectly.
As for complaints, if it's just to say the new rev doesn't work, that doesn't interest me. But those who complain and give me a description of their problem, they interest me. I admit I don't always answer but he always reads your messages. Most often they're bugs already known to the coders but if someone gives me a bug that isn't reported yet, I grab it right away!!
For those who find the new revs are crap, know that I left r92 and r123 available for dl, r92 being wiiflow 2.1 and r123 the most stable beta. I remind you these are betas, only install them if you know what you're doing!!

Why is there only r195 on the topic but googlecode is at r200? because as I said earlier in a previous message, with Benjay I'm working on a theme, it takes time. Since r195, the updates aren't that significant and bug after bug, I update the topic if it's really good, r195 seemed good to me.

In conclusion, choose the version of Wiiflow that suits you best, Wiiflow 1.1 being on Oops's topic.
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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I got it from WiiGen 2.1 rev.200. I hope no one will hold it against me for posting a link to a competing site :oops: :?
It's "my" topic on WiiFlow actually lol, no worries help yourself that's what it's for, it's not because the forums are "competing" that we can't help each other ;)
You're a group that runs tests to help find bugs, we do the same on our side ;)
In any case respect to the WiiFlow team who work hard to track down bugs and fix them quickly, hopefully we can help them as much as possible in our mutual research. 8-)
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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:? your messages of 2 kilometers gave me a headache :| :93: :98:

thanks for the feedback guys :bravo:
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Sa_Gojyo wrote:You're a group that runs tests to help find bugs, we do the same on our side ;)
No, we're much more than that, we (I) are part of Wiiflow. If you have Wiiflow in French it's thanks to me, if you have themes it's thanks to me. I don't know if you noticed, but this topic is the official fr topic, I'm part of the wiiflow team, just like Benjay who is also registered on this forum.
So I talk to the coders and report bugs to them, I've had quite a few fixed, especially for the theme makers.
I'm just saying this because you say "to help find bugs", but I've never seen you on #wiiflow, so you're not helping at all.

You'll notice I didn't say it on your topic ;)
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Yet I did come twice (on the US channel on the abjects server, so), but since the welcome wasn't, how to put it, "warm" (nobody answered me, like I didn't exist) before I let out "a cry of despair" and then Benjay kindly answered me in French in private, and if I didn't stay, it's simply because I don't speak English well enough.

If on the other hand you're talking about the French channel, I don't know it (neither the server nor the room) :/
So it would be kind to give me the info so I can join you.
we (I) are part of Wiiflow. If you have Wiiflow in French it's thanks to me, if you have themes it's thanks to me. I don't know if you noticed, but this topic is the official fr topic
I know that but you could say it in a way that's a bit less "pretentious", like if I breathe it's also thanks to you? Nothing stops you from staying humble, as for WiiFlow I know it and I thank you for it, as well as the whole WiiFlow team, and yes I did notice I was on the official fr topic (it's noted on GBATemp and also on the wiki if I remember correctly)
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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ok, I'm talking about the English channel and let's say that if you show up at a time when everyone is busy, you risk not getting much of a response and it all depends who's around at that time, some are nicer than others. Plus some might already be in a discussion.
Anyway just to say you can come back if needed ;)

:100: r204
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Yes I know all that, I've been on IRC channels for a few years now hence my quotes around the word warm ;)
Anyway have a good evening and thanks again to you and to the whole WiiFlow staff.
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Cool, a 204

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To think I was set on testing the 200 and look what I see!

204!

Things are moving fast these days ...
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Thanks Jiiwah for the little update :bravo:

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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Thanks for the update :74: Jiiwah :bravo:

Cool cool, chill out guys ;)
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Argh, I only just had time to test a 200 (which works great by the way) yesterday evening and there's already a 204 that just came out.

Alright, some work for this weekend then. :D
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Thanks

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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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Hi!

Guillaume17: For your black square issue instead of the covers, I suggest deleting all your covers as well as the corresponding cache files (found in the wiiflow\cache folder).
Then re-download your covers and the problem should be fixed ;)

Otherwise post again and we'll try something else.
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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hi

I don't have a wiiflow.ini file what should I do
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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wiiflow.ini is located in SD or USB:/apps/wiiflow
and you need to have launched and used wiiflow at least once
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Re: WiiFlow 4.2.1 r441 [updated: 31/12]

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I started over from the beginning
Now I have the wiiflow.ini file
But when I change theme the wiiflow.ini file isn't modified
Same for the partition, you have to choose it every time you start up
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