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Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Hello everyone.
So I was given a 3DS for my birthday last month, and I'm torn over choosing a Linker.

- Either the supercard dstwo:
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What interests me about this one I quote: "DStwo is the real second generation. Powerful built-in CPU, which can support GBA emulator and provide more strong functions. Other linkers without built-in CPU cannot do it." (yes sorry on the site they put an old Google translate :p )


- Either the R4i gold plus:
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What interests me about this one would be the included "firmware writer". Not having a classic DS, this would be a good solution for me in case of console update. Is it really useful or obsolete if I properly update the linker via my PC before any 3DS update?


- Either another linker that you recommend me.


- Either play my 3DS games while waiting for a linker to be able to read 3DS backups.


Thanks for your answers and kisses to you all ;)
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Look at the 3ds update topics. You'll find over the course of the posts, the linkers that update quickly.
There's r4gold whatchamacallit that updates very fast.
The acekard2i isn't bad either and really cheap.
For 3ds linkers in games... It's not looking good :(
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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I'm thinking of getting a DS two for GBA games.
Apparently since the 3DS doesn't have a slot 2 only the DStwo lets you run them (see HERE ) unless something has slipped past me or there have been new developments.

Thanks for your answer Oops, agreed with you I have a hard time believing it for 3DS backups.... You never know, we were also quite skeptical a while back about Gamecube backups over USB on Wii....
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Hello,

I'll allow myself to ask a question in this post to avoid creating 50 for the same thing.

I ordered the 3DS XL and I wanted a linker that works well for DS games (apparently for 3DS games we still need to wait) but of course I also want to be able to use my original 3DS games (in unlimited number)

if I get one of the linkers listed in this post I won't have any issue
news3ds/mise-a-jour-firmware-3ds-4-1-0- ... 11073.html

But is there one you'd recommend more specifically, especially since you indicate for certain linkers
R4i Gold (non-3DS, r4ids.cn)
R4i Gold (3DS, r4ids.cn)

when apparently they're the same thing?!?!
If I get this linker is it good? I wouldn't want to make a mistake ;) plus if I can take advantage of the promo :D :D :D :D :D
https://www.linkernds.com/product.php?id_product=106


Thanks in advance.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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@ armagad: I'd recommend you wait until you have your 3DS XL before anything else and check whether the linker of your choice is indeed compatible.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Ok thanks I suppose the linkers will say compatible with 3dsxl. Otherwise is the link ok for 3ds linkers?.
Thanks again :D
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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In your place, I'd get the DSTwo (fast updates and special GBA/SNES emulators thanks to the card's processor). If you find it too expensive, get an R4i Gold (https://r4ids.cn/) or an R4i DSN, which use Wood as their menu, also of good quality.
No point waiting for the 3DS, it's the same firmware as the regular 3DS. You'll just need to borrow a DS Lite for the firmware updates.

Don't necessarily buy from French shops. Buy directly from China. Shipping will take longer (around 4 weeks) but it's cheaper. For example there's nds-card which offers the DSTwo and the R4i Gold. The site is trustworthy, it's a partner of GBAtemp.
Otherwise the site you suggested armagad looks OK, it's apparently an r4i DSN so it should be fine but it's more expensive and I don't know if it's a copy.

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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Even if it's the same firmware, personally I'd still have waited for the linker sites to react just in case, and what's the point of having the linker before the console anyway?
Otherwise for the DStwo it's on promo and cheaper HERE
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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I'll wait for the console first :) I'm not in a rush. I'll probably get it from the sites you all recommended. and I'm leaning towards the R4 since I'm not really interested in GBA games (but I'll still think about it :) )

https://www.digimaniaz.com/linker-3ds/9 ... r-3ds.html
Could you tell me if this is ok on this link. (Sorry but there are so many R4 blah R4 stuff.... that I'd rather ask)
For the 2nd linker I have the link :)

However you're saying you need a DS lite for the firmware, I don't have one and I don't know anyone who has one, is it mandatory or not? is there a linker that lets you not need the DS LITE?

The site you gave me for the R4i Gold (https://r4ids.cn/) isn't available.

For the site digimaniaz.com it's the second site I had found :) where there's also the R4



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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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armagad wrote:I'll wait for the console first :) I'm not in a rush

However you're saying you need a DS lite for the firmware, I don't have one and I don't know anyone who has one, is it mandatory or not? is there a linker that lets you not need the ds LITE?

Thanks again
Actually, DSi/3DS system updates often block linkers. To work around this, you often need to update the card's internal firmware, which is different from the menu (Wood, AKAIO, EOS...). So if your DSi/3DS blocks the linker, you need to own a console capable of reading it (DS Lite or DS Phat, which don't block them). That way, you can run the update via a DS program and enjoy your linker on your 3DS/DSi.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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So if I understood correctly if I can't get a DS lite I'd better not use a linker because at the next update it will become unusable
:? :? :? :? :?

And I suppose updating the linker's firmware via the pc is impossible?
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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armagad wrote:So if I understood correctly if I can't get a DS lite I'd better not use a linker because at the next update it will become unusable
:? :? :? :? :?

And I suppose updating the linker's firmware via the pc is impossible?
That's indeed impossible: you need a DS capable of reading it (3DS not updated, DS Phat, Lite). But check, some sites sell them with the latest firmware update already installed.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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corenting wrote:
That's indeed impossible: you need a DS capable of reading it (3DS not updated...
So all you'd need to do is not update it, wait for a patch for the linker, update it, then update the 3DS.
because I'm also going to buy one and I no longer have a DS.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Jiiwah wrote:
corenting wrote:
That's indeed impossible: you need a DS capable of reading it (3DS not updated...
So all you'd need to do is not update it, wait for a patch for the linker, update it, then update the 3DS.
because I'm also going to buy one and I no longer have a DS.
That's right! And if the console is already updated, you need to buy a linker from the start with the latest update pre-installed.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Otherwise if you're afraid of updating the console before the linker by mistake there's the R4i gold Plus with its writer where you can update the linker with your PC without a DS ;) (see the first post of this topic).
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Why go with a bunch of linkers, where you need one and then another when with the gold plus there's no more hassle. What's the difference with the 2 other linkers in the post? Apart from the flash via pc. Given this info I'll go with that one.
Otherwise if I understood correctly:
We block the console update
We flash the linker
we do the update. Of the console

Question why do we have to do the updates?
Thanks

EDIT
Apparently there are two versions of the Gold Plus the deluxe and the standard. Only the deluxe is ok for updating via the pc. Can you confirm this for me.

Also on the site https://r4ids.com/ impossible to find the latest UPDATE for the 3DS which is indicated on the update post

Thanks again
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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armagad wrote:Question why do we have to do the updates?
Apart from being able to keep going to the eshop chain, I don't see why. Maybe some 3DS games require the latest firmware.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Your Gold Plus doesn't come from the same site: it's a different product, which doesn't use Wood... I don't know how good it is.
And the 3Ds updates are used to access the eshop, to get new features and are mandatory for certain games.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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So as jiiwah said is it possible to cut off the UPDATEs and do these

console UPDATE cut off
we update the linker
console UPDATE
console patch

Sorry for all these questions but this is my 1st console that I want to linker :) and since I have no way of getting a DS lite....

Thank you very much

EDIT: I just read https://4ugeek.over-blog.com/article-mi ... 11028.html
that the 3DS updates itself automatically can you confirm this is true. Because if that's the case my question above about cutting off the UPDATEs falls flat.

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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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No answer :? :? :D
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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The 3DS can download the updates in the background but doesn't install them without your permission.
Also, I just remembered that for the DSTwo you can perform the update without even having access to the linker ("an error occurred" screen after starting the linker). You just need to put a file on your microSD. Once the DSTwo receives power (when your console is on), it updates itself automatically: just leave it two or three minutes on the "an error occurred" screen then restart your console and your linker will work :)
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Ok great thanks for your answer, I'll check if it's the wood menu, maybe you know :D :D

If everything checks out here's my future linker and here's the address where I'll order it
https://www.nds-card.com/ProShow.asp?ProID=135

In any case it's great, no more need for DS/DS LITE....... but are you sure about that because all the tutorials I see say it's impossible from a 3DS https://www.originalgames.fr/index.php? ... &Itemid=57

I'll be the annoying one here sorry but if you could just confirm my link is ok and that it's indeed this linker (I wouldn't want to make a mistake ;). Well with DSTWO apparently there aren't 50 of them like for R4 :) :) :)

Thanks again a lot
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Yes it's the right linker on a good site!
For updating the Supercard DSTwo it's better to do it beforehand but it also works like I told you, it's just less recommended because if you turn it off too early you'll brick your linker.
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Ok thanks a lot

Alright I'll leave it for 30 minutes :)


I'm too tempted to order it now but I'll wait a bit

another BIG THANKS for all this info
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Re: Advice for choosing a 3DS linker

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Hello,

So there I have the 3DS XL in my hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D for info at auchan until 31/07 it's 179.99euros :D :D :D :D

I just looked in the console's settings it says ver 3.1.0-6E is it normal that it has such an "old" firmware because apparently we're at 4.3.0.10?

Otherwise with this console firmware can I still get this linker and do the procedure?
https://www.nds-card.com/ProShow.asp?ProID=135

And last question about this site how long does it take to receive it? because I'm leaving in 1 week for 15 days so I wanted to know if I should order before or after my vacation :)


Thanks in advance for your answers.

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