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Prevent possible YLOD PS3 backwards compatible

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Hi everyone, since I have a ps2-backward-compatible PS3, I was wondering if it wasn't possible to prevent a potential YLOD by for example changing the thermal paste or something...

we know these consoles all eventually give up the ghost, personally I'd rather preserve it, yes I clean it often by blowing and vacuuming out the dust, but is that enough? in my opinion, no..

so could one of you tell me the exact causes of hardware YLOD on this console? (bad quality thermal paste, bad fan)

it runs perfectly and if I can avoid a YLOD why not, it's only normal

well I already know I'm going to get an answer from Salahpayne which I'm waiting for eagerly :93: :93: :93: oh yeah mamule will probably also come by to be a clown :93: :93:
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Re: Prevent possible YLOD PS3 backwards compatible

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The Ylod is the cousin of the 360's ROD. Component overheating, soldering, etc...

So, you need to react like with a pc, change the thermal paste, clean the fan, change the heatsinks (copper ones are the best) just in case.

You can even buy small heatsinks for graphics card video memory that you stick on, it also works for the components and the chipsets. (that's what you find in the no rod kit for the xbox360)

A small brush and a vacuum cleaner can clean a motherboard without any issue.

Before changing the thermal paste, you clean the processor or the gpu.

I use artic silver 5 and it's very good!

Avoid playing if the console is in a closed cupboard with no ventilation or space for it to get fresh air.
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the thing is you have to do it before the failure happens because afterwards it's dead, you repair it and boom 2 weeks later it happens again.
+1 for the artic silver 5, but not all of them give up the ghost machone on the 60G ones, basically it's the thermal paste that dries out over time.


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First of all thanks to both of you for your answers, well this console was barely used, I got it from someone who wasn't using it, or just to watch a movie every now and then and even that, he never played with it, actually he bought it right when it came out and that was it, just to give you an idea it still smelled new when I turned it on, at my place I'm on the ground floor and it's dusty, I already saw traces of dust in the ventilation holes so I cleaned it but I don't think that's enough, I know about artic silver 5 which you can find pretty much everywhere, however kalidor I'd like a link for the heatsinks you're talking about, so basically I take it apart I clean everything (cpu gpu) I replace the thermal paste I add heatsinks and off we go, I have another fan from a 40gb ps3 that I killed with the "kljkldsfhjkhf" from "lskdjklqshdkls" by waninkoko, aren't they of better quality? indeed arnauto, not all of them die but I prefer to stack the odds in my favor and optimize heat dissipation as best as possible.....
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Re: Prevent possible YLOD PS3 backwards compatible

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Personally in my opinion if you take care of your console it will live forever (example my 40GB ps3 Mgs4 pack "june 2008" the series supposedly the most defective in ps3 history and well it's still running with over 50 psn+boxed games). I know that dust is really the enemy of electronic components. remember to clean your ps3 from time to time and don't put it in front of a window (dust). and above all put it in a well ventilated place (with at least 50cm from a wall or more if possible).
Regarding the Yold it's not like the RRod, the rod is micro cracks in the console's motherboard "I remember back then with the eraser tutorials the nightmare pfff :mrgreen: "

the ps3's yold is just a safety measure. in case of ps3 overheating it locks itself to avoid irreversible problems.

it's when you get a yold that you'll need to change the thermal paste... for now don't touch it!!!!!! :bravo:
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Re: Prevent possible YLOD PS3 backwards compatible

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thanks salahpayne but I've actually seen that all repaired YLODs don't hold up, that would be a shame, it's in a cabinet that can be closed with glass panels which of course I leave open but I have no choice but to put it there otherwise it's on the floor, (with the little steps not great) or else I take it out just to play then put it away when I'm done, :arff: what to do.. this YLOD story gives me nightmares :93:
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Sorry Salah, but the rod isn't just a soldering issue, it's also a gpu overheating or a cpu overheating (actually, you find out depending on the error code).

A Rod with a blown memory solder joint, there's a good chance it will come back.

A gpu or cpu rod is due to the crappy X-clamp mounting of the xbox 360, the heatsink no longer presses fully on the cpu or gpu because the motherboard tends to warp (it's almost invisible to see)

Overheating, normal you'll say, given the crappy all-aluminum heatsinks and crappy fan the xbox 360 has.
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the cabinet with the glass panels must be like 60° inside :93: :93:

OT:
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A buddy just brought back a 60gb ps3 (Hs drive) flashed with Kmeaw no backup will launch. when I launch a game it freezes on the xmb wave!!! and impossible to access recovery mode to remove kmeaw and reflash it!!! :93:
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kalidor wrote:Sorry Salah, but the rod isn't just a soldering issue, it's also a gpu overheating or a cpu overheating (actually, you find out depending on the error code).

A Rod with a blown memory solder joint, there's a good chance it will come back.

A gpu or cpu rod is due to the crappy X-clamp mounting of the xbox 360, the heatsink no longer presses fully on the cpu or gpu because the motherboard tends to warp (it's almost invisible to see)

Overheating, normal you'll say, given the crappy all-aluminum heatsinks and crappy fan the xbox 360 has.
+1 I just hope my Elite will hold up :mrgreen: and it's not good with the dashboard updates that reflash the drive, I feel like it's dead if it comes out.
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there's also the high speed fan trick for a quick cleanup, the procedure is:

ps3 fat: ps3 switch to off (red light off) you hold down the eject button on the console and turn on the switch at the back.

ps3 slim: unplug the power cord from the console, hold down the eject button and plug the cord back in.

the fan will spin at max speed for about 5s, which lets you remove quite a bit of dust without disassembling ;)


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arnauto wrote:there's also the high speed fan trick for a quick cleanup, the procedure is:

ps3 fat: ps3 switch to off (red light off) you hold down the eject button on the console and turn on the switch at the back.

ps3 slim: unplug the power cord from the console, hold down the eject button and plug the cord back in.

the fan will spin at max speed for about 5s, which lets you remove quite a bit of dust without disassembling ;)
well well you'll learn my dear arnauto that this trick doesn't work on first generation ps3s including the 60 gb :D :D
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ah really??? I had one (that got the ylod, which I repaired 5 times in a row....) but I don't remember doing this trick on it ;)


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no it doesn't work that's for sure, I'd already tried it, and 5 times in a row? that's why I don't want to wait for a YLOD salahpayne
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MachOne wrote:no it doesn't work that's for sure, I'd already tried it, and 5 times in a row? that's why I don't want to wait for a YLOD salahpayne
yeah the repair is diy stuff, even with the artik silver 5, every time I heated it up with a facom heat gun (adjustable flow and temperature) and changed the paste, it holds for 3 weeks max and even then you shouldn't play 4h a day....after the 5th time I threw it in the trash and went to micronana to buy one (80G, harry potter br pack for the missus :93: ) with a warranty of over 2 years so 3 years and 6 months warranty :arff:


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you were right
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salahpayne wrote: OT:
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A buddy just brought back a 60gb ps3 (Hs drive) flashed with Kmeaw no backup will launch. when I launch a game it freezes on the xmb wave!!! and impossible to access recovery mode to remove kmeaw and reflash it!!! :93:
I'm starting to wonder if it's not the A****** ps3s that lack the recovery mode, or maybe it's you and the recovery mode that have a problem in common :93: :93: :93: :93:

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